Comments on: tinypy 64k - now with built in garbage collection http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/ games, tech, web, stuff, biz, and bilge Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:25:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: philhassey http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1017 philhassey Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:13:45 +0000 http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1017 That doesn't have quite as nice a ring to it .. and it's nice to have the code be so short that anyone can read through it all in a couple hours. Though at this point, I'm not sure I can trim it down much ... That doesn’t have quite as nice a ring to it .. and it’s nice to have the code be so short that anyone can read through it all in a couple hours. Though at this point, I’m not sure I can trim it down much …

]]> By: A.B.Leal http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1013 A.B.Leal Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:36:25 +0000 http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1013 > I’m actually trying to reduce the code size, not the binary size Duh (smacking forehead), the _source_ code - yeah, that's what it says in the boot.py and NOTES.txt that I speed-read ... (was also wondering how all the linked stuff was going to fit). My apologies. Well, what about changing the motto to "Tinypy - around Python in 80k" ? Cheers. > I’m actually trying to reduce the code size, not the binary size

Duh (smacking forehead), the _source_ code - yeah, that’s
what it says in the boot.py and NOTES.txt that I speed-read …
(was also wondering how all the linked stuff was going to fit).
My apologies.

Well, what about changing the motto to
“Tinypy - around Python in 80k” ?

Cheers.

]]> By: philhassey http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1011 philhassey Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:24:47 +0000 http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1011 Leal - thanks. I'm actually trying to reduce the code size, not the binary size though :) Leal - thanks. I’m actually trying to reduce the code size, not the binary size though :)

]]> By: A.B.Leal http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1010 A.B.Leal Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:13:56 +0000 http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1010 Congratulations, this looks fun. I've looked at the zip. I cannot compile (no SDL), but to reduce size you may want to play with these, if you have not already: a) Use "gcc -Os" instead of "gcc -O2". Perhaps it will not affect performance significantly. b) Strip the binary ("strip tinypy"). Goodbye debug ;-) c) Check strings in the binary ("strings tinypy"). You may want to make some global to avoid repeats (I don't know if gcc is smart about that). Congratulations, this looks fun.

I’ve looked at the zip. I cannot compile (no SDL),
but to reduce size you may want to play with these,
if you have not already:

a) Use “gcc -Os” instead of “gcc -O2″. Perhaps it will
not affect performance significantly.

b) Strip the binary (”strip tinypy”). Goodbye debug ;-)

c) Check strings in the binary (”strings tinypy”).
You may want to make some global to avoid repeats
(I don’t know if gcc is smart about that).

]]> By: philhassey http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1009 philhassey Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:44:01 +0000 http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1009 Omar - I think you've been reading it :) Though I'd be glad to answer any questions about stuff I haven't talked about... Good luck with your project! Omar - I think you’ve been reading it :) Though I’d be glad to answer any questions about stuff I haven’t talked about… Good luck with your project!

]]> By: Dave http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1008 Dave Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:12:40 +0000 http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1008 Looks like you have enjoyed the process. I have enjoyed reading about it. I love the banners ate the top of your site. Looks like you have enjoyed the process. I have enjoyed reading about it. I love the banners ate the top of your site.

]]> By: Omar Gómez http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1007 Omar Gómez Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:09:59 +0000 http://www.philhassey.com/blog/2008/02/12/tinypy-64k-now-with-built-in-garbage-collection/#comment-1007 Hi Phill, Congrats on your achievement. I've been quitely following your work on this 64k implementation of Python VM. For some time now I wanted to do the same for the also beatifull language Io (http://www.iolanguage.com/). Have you any plans to document a detailed history of your experience designing tinypy 64k?. Some of us out here would benefit for your experience. //omar Hi Phill,

Congrats on your achievement. I’ve been quitely following your work on this 64k implementation of Python VM. For some time now I wanted to do the same for the also beatifull language Io (http://www.iolanguage.com/). Have you any plans to document a detailed history of your experience designing tinypy 64k?. Some of us out here would benefit for your experience.

//omar

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